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if ya think about joining, think twice. Just came back and it is not worth it at all. If you are going for the traveling, buy a lonely planet and look under volunteer work. Other wise look up a GOOD organisation, they are out there. Saves you a lot of worries about how save your life is.
I'm a volunteer (soon to be ex-) of TVIND and I suggest people to research Tvind accurately before believing any of these stories...
can you please please find out if this tomas is from NYC the tomas i am looking for is a short latino guy plz write me back with the answer
iS IT THE TOMAS THAT IS AT CCTG IN ETNA CALIF?
i am looking for a guy named Tomas from NYC the last thing i knew about him is that he was going to Nicarugua with IICD MASS could you plz contact me here and tell him his whereabouts because i would like to get in contact with him
i am looking to get ahold of Tomas for NYC i last knew of him going to IICD MASS, to Nicagura this summer contact me here if you know of his whereabouts
C.I.C.D is shit. This is without doubt the most suspect place ive ever encountered. I read in a letter that stated you dont get money back when you leave, good joke, you have to pay them money when you leave. Of course you can do what i did and tell them to shove it up there arses. I left in may and really dont regret it at all. Seriously do not join C.I.C.D because youll probably regret it after your first fundraising trip.(biggest loada bollocks ever)
DOES ANYONE KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT A GUY CALLED HUGO TABARES? PROBABLY WORKING IN MOZAMBIQUE NOW. CHEERS.
Hi All,
Just thought I'd pass on the contrast between how IICD presents its work and how an outside observer sees it.
First - here is the home page of the current Nicaraguan team. http://www.iicd-volunteer.org/frames/team/Nic%2015/index.htm As far as I can tell all these people listed here are voluteers/particpants and not TG people. It's sobering looking through these bios and pictures and realizing what good intentions and interest in changing the world these folks have. Reminds me a lot of myself and the group of people that I got to know at IICD.
Then you read the letter from someone in sister city organization that visited the same town that this group is working in. http://www.tvindalert.org.uk/nicaragua.htm. Just by the description and some of the names you can tell that its the same group as IICD lists on its webpage. However, this outside observer who just stumbled onto the group provides a very pointed critique of what IICD is having these people do. With little preparation, training or support IICD is throwing this idealistic group into a situation where it is unclear what exact they can accomplish despite the best of intentions.
This I think is IICD real crime. Putting people in impossible situat
# There is only negative information displayed-note that "Tvind" is a very big organisation with a lot of people involved. Of coarse things can happen.
Here is some lines from the site:
"98% of UFF's taking stays within UFFs own activities in different places around the world."
Explanation: Uffs taking stays within the organisation, which is running charity projects. For running a school for street children (it is existing, I have been there myself and it is a very nice school) money is needed. This money comes from the organisation. 2% goes to direct sharity, which is the type of charity that is least efficient.
Also I read something like "they are said to drive expensive merchedes cars" This is also roumer based information.
Who ever put up this site:
#Close it down as long as you havent made proper research, visited the projects and are lacking capacity to select information.
//Jan M Ben_Rangell@theglobe.com
A very interesting site.I saw an ad in my local paper to teach kids and travel to africa and tried humana.org with no joy.What a bit of luck finding this site cause now i'm pissed off and will be contacting the paper,whether they know or not .I know a couple of people who write for said paper and i'm wondering if they would perhaps do a small peice informing others of this dodgy organisation.I believe a few more people could do with knowing about this NICE WORK
Jan:
I joined a project, including education at one of the Tvind Schools. One of the reasons for participating was to investigate how the schools were and how the projects was kept.
As a matter of fact both me-and most of my friends had positive experiences both at the Tvind school in Norway and The Adpp (DAPP) projects.
In Mocambique I made close studies of the projects and I found nothing to claim.
Though I noticed a small lack of capacity to run the projects. Dapp:s are hard working, dedikated people that sometimes have got more will than knowledge.
The organisation have been on the lead regarding methods to inprove and develop poor areas in the world. This might be why there have been a lot of small or big accidents organising or running the projects.
My experience is 100% good and I recommend strong people to join in! If you have had pzycological or other problems it might get tough for you. A lot of persons that joins the schools have had problems life, drugs, pzycological or other problems and wants to start a "new" life. This is why the school have had problems too.
I respect the fact that things might have gone wrong in some cases and that some persons might have been treated badly. This is beyond my knowledge and something that-as a matter of fact-is happening everywhere in the society.
Thank you for reading! Jan M Ben_Rangell@theglobe.com
Jan:
I joined a project, including education at one of the Tvind Schools. One of the reasons for participating was to investigate how the schools were and how the projects was kept.
As a matter of fact both me-and most of my friends had positive experiences both at the Tvind school in Norway and The Adpp (DAPP) projects.
In Mocambique I made close studies of the projects and I found nothing to claim.
Though I noticed a small lack of capacity to run the projects. Dapp:s are hard working, dedikated people that sometimes have got more will than knowledge.
The organisation have been on the lead regarding methods to inprove and develop poor areas in the world. This might be why there have been a lot of small or big accidents organising or running the projects.
My experience is 100% good and I recommend strong people to join in! If you have had pzycological or other problems it might get tough for you. A lot of persons that joins the schools have had problems life, drugs, pzycological or other problems and wants to start a "new" life. This is why the school have had problems too.
I respect the fact that things might have gone wrong in some cases and that some persons might have been treated badly. This is beyond my knowledge and something that-as a matter of fact-is happening everywhere in the society.
Thank you for reading! Jan M Ben_Rangell@theglobe.com
Who was talking about new teachers in Tvind?I saw Lotte the woman from the story of Chinese student just last weekend in Tvind
I'm visiting you again! I love your Breaking news and others like me love them too! We are thinking in creating a page named "Alert, Tvind!!!" It will be lateral thinking with many pictures. We will have a Graphic Section: "Fugitive Amdi!" But I don't say more!... Alert! and see... Toninho metralha!
Hey you spaks, check this one out and get a life!
www.drh-movement.org go to TCE!
jannaumann@mail.com
Is there any Italian or Italian speaking reader of Tvind Alert guestbook? Humana in Italy have been hassling and maybe threatening a journalist in Italy. His message is below. If anyone can write to him in Italian for Tvind Alert please pass a message to him through feedback at feedback@tvindalert.org.uk - I'll pass it on:
Please help me. Hi, scuse me for bad english I am <name omitted> a italian jornalist of Il Resegone of Lecco, small city near Milan in Italy. I wrote an articles about Humana people to people after Humana arrived in my town. I take a lot of material from yoru website about the off-shore society, the report of comunity comuniti of Englad and alla about Tvind, Uff and Dapp.
Now Humana people to people Italy wrote me that all the news are not correted. They said that Humana and Tvind are non toghetere, that Humana work with Unicef and caritas and the want take me on a justice Hall. I asked you some information about Humana and Tvind in official document of Charity Commis, of Unicef and so... I find some messagge on my car from people who said me: don't write about Humana.
Please help me.
Is there ay Italian or Italian speaking reader of Tvind Alert guestbook? Humana in Italy have been hassling and maybe threatening a journalist in Italy. His message is below. If anyone can write to him in Italian for Tvind Alert please pass a message to him through feedback at feedback@tvindalert.org.uk - I'll pass it on:
Please help me. Hi, scuse me for bad english I am <name omitted> a italian jornalist of Il Resegone of Lecco, small city near Milan in Italy. I wrote an articles about Humana people to people after Humana arrived in my town. I take a lot of material from yoru website about the off-shore society, the report of comunity comuniti of Englad and alla about Tvind, Uff and Dapp.
Now Humana people to people Italy wrote me that all the news are not correted. They said that Humana and Tvind are non toghetere, that Humana work with Unicef and caritas and the want take me on a justice Hall. I asked you some information about Humana and Tvind in official document of Charity Commis, of Unicef and so... I find some messagge on my car from people who said me: don't write about Humana.
Please help me.
I have received an e-mail which informed me that all the students at the new college in Yunnan have run away owing to the poor conditions and bad treatment they received.
Hi, there!
Very good job you are doing in letting people express themselves about what they think of Humana, Tvind and stuff.
I went to IICD and did a programme to Angola,Africa. The six months were not easy, mostly because fundraising is no easy task. But I'd do everything again! What those guys do in Angola is big, and instead of criticising them, I'd much rather try to help people that dedicate their whole lives to help people down there, like the members of the teacher's group I met in Africa, that by far don't live a glorious life in the bushes in Africa. they work very hard, and are helping many people indeed.
I strongly recommend anyone to do their programme and have a chance of making a difference, and change their lives.
Thank you,
Sidnei.
Hi.
Let me first thank those who are behind "Tvind alert". You are doing a great job.
Then I would like to share something with you all, especially those who have been angry and hostile in this guestbook. You seem to think that "ex tvindmembers" have no right to criticize Tvind, because they joined it voluntarily. You also frequently ask questions like "if the organization is so terrible why did you join it" and "if it was so bad, why did you stay so long". I will try to give you my answer to that.
When I became a student at a Tvind "traveling highschool" I had never heard of the organization. I was looking at a list of Scandinavian "folk high school" when I saw this interesting school that combined studies of the world with traveling. I found it all very interesting and went to Norway without knowing what I was getting me into. The school turned out to be rather overwhelming. The teachers were charming and enthusiastic but they were also very domineering and discouraged any criticism of their work very strongly. From the first day I had a nagging feeling that something was very wrong, but I didn't allow myself to think that way, the problem was surely with me, and not the organization. Much went on in the "studying" and working period, but the oncoming voyage to India kept me going. The trip itself was both wonderful and terrible. I was nearly raped, I had constant diahorrea and I was robbed - among other things. But I also met some wonderful and courageous people who affected me deeply. I saw poverty and injustice everywhere and I sincerely wanted to do something to help. The teacher kept saying that the only way to really do something was to join the teachers group. I had only a vague idea what that was but I was exhausted and he was a very pervasive man. The long and short of it was that I joined the group when I came back to Norway.
I was assigned to a primary school in Denmark run by Tvind. It was a boarding school for troubled kids who for a variety of reasons didn't fit into the regular school system. There were only three qualified teacher there, the rest of the staff was inexperienced. The work conditions vere terrible. Those kids really needed help and the teachers tried to help them but we were overworked and underqualified. We didn't have any time off, we lived in the school and were constantly on duty. I wanted to leave early on, but I had become fond of the kids and I had some progress with some of them so it was hard to leave them. Exhaustion was also a factor, it is hard to think straight when you never get enough rest. Finally after two and a half years I had enough and left. I had come to disagree with almost everything the teachers group stands for, but I found that there was no way for me to change anything. I left empty-handed with only the clothes that I wore. Later on I have realized I was exactly the kind of person cults like Tvind go for. I was young and alone, I was insecure but hardworking, intelligent but inexperienced. I also had a strong desire to help people and a keen sense of the injustice of our world. Ergo : I was easy prey.
All I want to say is that I was a member of one of the schools. There is a lot of pressure put on the students, because in Africa you will need to be resourceful and commited, work hard and deal with a multidtude of problems due to the relentless situation there: poverty, AIDS, illetracy, colonial systems. If you cannot cope with pressure in Europe - how would you be able to cope in Africa, where the pressure is higher? If you do not make your target in fundraising - i.e. make the money you need to pay for your education, your ticket etc, you cannot expect other people to raise it for you. You cannot treat your team mates like shit. From hearing from "3rd periods" it sounded like they did a good job in Africa, despite endless struggles with communication, adverse conditions and lack of just about everything. I didnt learn the native tounge of the country that I was to be working in either - not enough anyway, because we didn't fully understand the importance of learing it. Lack of self discipline, I am afraid. I learnt the laguage once I got to my project. Students in the school gave the language lessons - they were from Portugal and did a brilinat job. Do join!
All I want to say is that I was a member of one of the schools. Their is undue pressure put on the students, if you do not make your target in fundraising you are told you are lazy, that you have to raise your standerds and generally made to feel like shit. From hearing from "3rd periods" it sounds like they do jack shit in Africa. I didnt learn anything in my time at the school, not even the native toung of the country that I was to be working in. Students in the school gave the language lessons. Dont join.
As far as I can see you are looking after the needs of those who wish to complain about Tvind. From what I heard the Tvind guestbooks where repeatedly sabotaged and they couldn't be bothered to clean it up any longer. Actually, there is quite a lot of interesting articles at www.tvind.dk if you wish to look at what their side of the story is. I have written some emails to people there to ask some questions and they have all been answered, so this crap about that you cannot discuss with them is not true.
Linda
I'll take back my last comment, I've seen that at least one comment has reached the guestbook,
with regards Bertold
I put in a quick check with East Riding council and there is no application to open Winestead Hall as a children's home. HOWEVER a change of use to a private school or college for over-16s would not need planning permission. Thanks Eddy, keep your ears and eyes open.
it is very sad to see that neither of my comments reach the debate in the guestbook...
Bertold
Hey y'all
It seems to me that nothing has changed. The same old discussion about Tvind over and over again. I think it is becoming very boring debating about a organisation for over ten years. I've heard the same stories and same argumentation since 1991. I think the time has come let Tvind dor their stuff. Let the Danish Government do their job and let everybody else concern themselves with more serious matters like environment e.g. The whole discussion etc. has not had a deciding influence yet, and in my perception it won't either.
With regards Bertold
Hi my name is Eddy i worked at Winestead for 3 years as a nightwatchman. T my intrest you to know thatb the scool is trying to re-open and look after kids with sever behavioural problems again!!!! I think that this is just another money making project for the cult and should be stopped at all costs as it is only the kids who suffer. I will keep you all informed about this in the future Cheers Eddy
Obviously the Tvindies are starting to Cr*p themselves
Sunday: a sad attempt was made tonight to sabotage this guest book. I think we can draw our own conclusions.
Readers should be aware that submissions to this guestbook are archived and they can swiftly be replaced. They always will be.
this is truly the most pathetic "hacking" attempt I have seen in my life. Amdi would not be proud. :P
What on earth has been going on here?
Micheal you really need to ban these people, as they are making it very hard for people to acctualy post messages.
Answer: No,not lithuanian social service,they don't care about "problem kids" so much down there.I did it by myself.Lithuanian girl.
A few weeks ago tvind.dk removed its discussion board. Sadly, their guestbook has now gone too, leaving absolutely no opportunity for public debate and questions on the site. Can't say that I'm surprised, but it certainly is a step backwards!
Question: Who funded a Lithuanian "problem kid" to go to a Tvind school? The Lithuanian Social Services?
Hi again, Like I said,before,when I was in one of Tvind schools I hated it so much,but now things changed. DNS changed too,cuz all these old teachers don't have such a power like before(it seems like that).In their place came some new people,who ain't just working machines.Where else if not in DNS u can learn so easy how to deal with all kinds of problems and people?And that trip in India...If u ever gonna try it,u will keep memories and expierence for your all life.In Tvind u can learn so many important rules of living.For me it's kinda difficult to express myself,I hope u understand what I meen.I'm not fan of Tvind,not at all.But I think everybody can get something from there. Lithuanian girl.
Dear girl from Lithuania, Succesfully, Tvind exploit your difficult situation. Like they have done in for instance the old DDR, pulling many youngsters to Tvind and into the Tvind system. The Tvind system, in many ways, uses similar manipulative principles as were used in East Block countries, and Tvind being a totalitarian system itself, you are exactly "gefundenes Fressen" and easy prey for Tvind. You are their victims, and you do not realise. Why, really, can't you find more than a handful of young Danes at Tvind's schools? Do you really think it is all caused by a "bad press", as your Tvind leaders will tell you? Or could there be other reasons? For instance that they KNOW Tvind? -This is said with all respect for your own right of choice of your future.
Hi everyone, I have been in one of the Tvind bording schools in Denmark,I was one of those "problem kids" down there.And it was the worst time in my life,they didn't helped me with my problems,just were using me and made my life realy up-side-down.But now,i know a lot about Tvind,and I think that their ideas are great.Right now I'm studing in one of ex Tvind schools and school became my home.I imagining my future in Tvind,I'm planning to go in DNS,and after to work as a teacher.I think that Tvind ain't such a bad organisation.Everything depence on you,if u have strong personality,nobody is going to hurt u there.U can have the most greatest times of your life down in Tvind.Just don't let them use u,use them.As I do now,and everything gonna be cool. Girl from Lithuania.
if ya think about joining, think twice. Just came back and it is not worth it at all. If you are going for the traveling, buy a lonely planet and look under volunteer work. Other wise look up a GOOD organisation, they are out there. Saves you a lot of worries about how save your life is.
I'm a volunteer (soon to be ex-) of TVIND and I suggest people to research Tvind accurately before believing any of these stories...
can you please please find out if this tomas is from NYC the tomas i am looking for is a short latino guy plz write me back with the answer
iS IT THE TOMAS THAT IS AT CCTG IN ETNA CALIF?
i am looking for a guy named Tomas from NYC the last thing i knew about him is that he was going to Nicarugua with IICD MASS could you plz contact me here and tell him his whereabouts because i would like to get in contact with him
i am looking to get ahold of Tomas for NYC i last knew of him going to IICD MASS, to Nicagura this summer contact me here if you know of his whereabouts
C.I.C.D is shit. This is without doubt the most suspect place ive ever encountered. I read in a letter that stated you dont get money back when you leave, good joke, you have to pay them money when you leave. Of course you can do what i did and tell them to shove it up there arses. I left in may and really dont regret it at all. Seriously do not join C.I.C.D because youll probably regret it after your first fundraising trip.(biggest loada bollocks ever)
DOES ANYONE KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT A GUY CALLED HUGO TABARES? PROBABLY WORKING IN MOZAMBIQUE NOW. CHEERS.
Hi All,
Just thought I'd pass on the contrast between how IICD presents its work and how an outside observer sees it.
First - here is the home page of the current Nicaraguan team. http://www.iicd-volunteer.org/frames/team/Nic%2015/index.htm As far as I can tell all these people listed here are voluteers/particpants and not TG people. It's sobering looking through these bios and pictures and realizing what good intentions and interest in changing the world these folks have. Reminds me a lot of myself and the group of people that I got to know at IICD.
Then you read the letter from someone in sister city organization that visited the same town that this group is working in. http://www.tvindalert.org.uk/nicaragua.htm. Just by the description and some of the names you can tell that its the same group as IICD lists on its webpage. However, this outside observer who just stumbled onto the group provides a very pointed critique of what IICD is having these people do. With little preparation, training or support IICD is throwing this idealistic group into a situation where it is unclear what exact they can accomplish despite the best of intentions.
This I think is IICD real crime. Putting people in impossible situat
Here is some lines from the site:
"98% of UFF's taking stays within UFFs own activities in different places around the world."
Explanation: Uffs taking stays within the organisation, which is running charity projects. For running a school for street children (it is existing, I have been there myself and it is a very nice school) money is needed. This money comes from the organisation. 2% goes to direct sharity, which is the type of charity that is least efficient.
Also I read something like "they are said to drive expensive merchedes cars" This is also roumer based information.
Who ever put up this site:
#Close it down as long as you havent made proper research, visited the projects and are lacking capacity to select information.
//Jan M Ben_Rangell@theglobe.com
A very interesting site.I saw an ad in my local paper to teach kids and travel to africa and tried humana.org with no joy.What a bit of luck finding this site cause now i'm pissed off and will be contacting the paper,whether they know or not .I know a couple of people who write for said paper and i'm wondering if they would perhaps do a small peice informing others of this dodgy organisation.I believe a few more people could do with knowing about this NICE WORK
Jan:
I joined a project, including education at one of the Tvind Schools. One of the reasons for participating was to investigate how the schools were and how the projects was kept.
As a matter of fact both me-and most of my friends had positive experiences both at the Tvind school in Norway and The Adpp (DAPP) projects.
In Mocambique I made close studies of the projects and I found nothing to claim.
Though I noticed a small lack of capacity to run the projects. Dapp:s are hard working, dedikated people that sometimes have got more will than knowledge.
The organisation have been on the lead regarding methods to inprove and develop poor areas in the world. This might be why there have been a lot of small or big accidents organising or running the projects.
My experience is 100% good and I recommend strong people to join in! If you have had pzycological or other problems it might get tough for you. A lot of persons that joins the schools have had problems life, drugs, pzycological or other problems and wants to start a "new" life. This is why the school have had problems too.
I respect the fact that things might have gone wrong in some cases and that some persons might have been treated badly. This is beyond my knowledge and something that-as a matter of fact-is happening everywhere in the society.
Thank you for reading! Jan M Ben_Rangell@theglobe.com
Jan:
I joined a project, including education at one of the Tvind Schools. One of the reasons for participating was to investigate how the schools were and how the projects was kept.
As a matter of fact both me-and most of my friends had positive experiences both at the Tvind school in Norway and The Adpp (DAPP) projects.
In Mocambique I made close studies of the projects and I found nothing to claim.
Though I noticed a small lack of capacity to run the projects. Dapp:s are hard working, dedikated people that sometimes have got more will than knowledge.
The organisation have been on the lead regarding methods to inprove and develop poor areas in the world. This might be why there have been a lot of small or big accidents organising or running the projects.
My experience is 100% good and I recommend strong people to join in! If you have had pzycological or other problems it might get tough for you. A lot of persons that joins the schools have had problems life, drugs, pzycological or other problems and wants to start a "new" life. This is why the school have had problems too.
I respect the fact that things might have gone wrong in some cases and that some persons might have been treated badly. This is beyond my knowledge and something that-as a matter of fact-is happening everywhere in the society.
Thank you for reading! Jan M Ben_Rangell@theglobe.com
Who was talking about new teachers in Tvind?I saw Lotte the woman from the story of Chinese student just last weekend in Tvind
I'm visiting you again! I love your Breaking news and others like me love them too! We are thinking in creating a page named "Alert, Tvind!!!" It will be lateral thinking with many pictures. We will have a Graphic Section: "Fugitive Amdi!" But I don't say more!... Alert! and see... Toninho metralha!
Hey you spaks, check this one out and get a life!
www.drh-movement.org go to TCE!
jannaumann@mail.com
Is there any Italian or Italian speaking reader of Tvind Alert guestbook? Humana in Italy have been hassling and maybe threatening a journalist in Italy. His message is below. If anyone can write to him in Italian for Tvind Alert please pass a message to him through feedback at feedback@tvindalert.org.uk - I'll pass it on:
Please help me. Hi, scuse me for bad english I am <name omitted> a italian jornalist of Il Resegone of Lecco, small city near Milan in Italy. I wrote an articles about Humana people to people after Humana arrived in my town. I take a lot of material from yoru website about the off-shore society, the report of comunity comuniti of Englad and alla about Tvind, Uff and Dapp.
Now Humana people to people Italy wrote me that all the news are not correted. They said that Humana and Tvind are non toghetere, that Humana work with Unicef and caritas and the want take me on a justice Hall. I asked you some information about Humana and Tvind in official document of Charity Commis, of Unicef and so... I find some messagge on my car from people who said me: don't write about Humana.
Please help me.
Is there ay Italian or Italian speaking reader of Tvind Alert guestbook? Humana in Italy have been hassling and maybe threatening a journalist in Italy. His message is below. If anyone can write to him in Italian for Tvind Alert please pass a message to him through feedback at feedback@tvindalert.org.uk - I'll pass it on:
Please help me. Hi, scuse me for bad english I am <name omitted> a italian jornalist of Il Resegone of Lecco, small city near Milan in Italy. I wrote an articles about Humana people to people after Humana arrived in my town. I take a lot of material from yoru website about the off-shore society, the report of comunity comuniti of Englad and alla about Tvind, Uff and Dapp.
Now Humana people to people Italy wrote me that all the news are not correted. They said that Humana and Tvind are non toghetere, that Humana work with Unicef and caritas and the want take me on a justice Hall. I asked you some information about Humana and Tvind in official document of Charity Commis, of Unicef and so... I find some messagge on my car from people who said me: don't write about Humana.
Please help me.
I have received an e-mail which informed me that all the students at the new college in Yunnan have run away owing to the poor conditions and bad treatment they received.
Hi, there!
Very good job you are doing in letting people express themselves about what they think of Humana, Tvind and stuff.
I went to IICD and did a programme to Angola,Africa. The six months were not easy, mostly because fundraising is no easy task. But I'd do everything again! What those guys do in Angola is big, and instead of criticising them, I'd much rather try to help people that dedicate their whole lives to help people down there, like the members of the teacher's group I met in Africa, that by far don't live a glorious life in the bushes in Africa. they work very hard, and are helping many people indeed.
I strongly recommend anyone to do their programme and have a chance of making a difference, and change their lives.
Thank you,
Sidnei.
Hi.
Let me first thank those who are behind "Tvind alert". You are doing a great job.
Then I would like to share something with you all, especially those who have been angry and hostile in this guestbook. You seem to think that "ex tvindmembers" have no right to criticize Tvind, because they joined it voluntarily. You also frequently ask questions like "if the organization is so terrible why did you join it" and "if it was so bad, why did you stay so long". I will try to give you my answer to that.
When I became a student at a Tvind "traveling highschool" I had never heard of the organization. I was looking at a list of Scandinavian "folk high school" when I saw this interesting school that combined studies of the world with traveling. I found it all very interesting and went to Norway without knowing what I was getting me into. The school turned out to be rather overwhelming. The teachers were charming and enthusiastic but they were also very domineering and discouraged any criticism of their work very strongly. From the first day I had a nagging feeling that something was very wrong, but I didn't allow myself to think that way, the problem was surely with me, and not the organization. Much went on in the "studying" and working period, but the oncoming voyage to India kept me going. The trip itself was both wonderful and terrible. I was nearly raped, I had constant diahorrea and I was robbed - among other things. But I also met some wonderful and courageous people who affected me deeply. I saw poverty and injustice everywhere and I sincerely wanted to do something to help. The teacher kept saying that the only way to really do something was to join the teachers group. I had only a vague idea what that was but I was exhausted and he was a very pervasive man. The long and short of it was that I joined the group when I came back to Norway.
I was assigned to a primary school in Denmark run by Tvind. It was a boarding school for troubled kids who for a variety of reasons didn't fit into the regular school system. There were only three qualified teacher there, the rest of the staff was inexperienced. The work conditions vere terrible. Those kids really needed help and the teachers tried to help them but we were overworked and underqualified. We didn't have any time off, we lived in the school and were constantly on duty. I wanted to leave early on, but I had become fond of the kids and I had some progress with some of them so it was hard to leave them. Exhaustion was also a factor, it is hard to think straight when you never get enough rest. Finally after two and a half years I had enough and left. I had come to disagree with almost everything the teachers group stands for, but I found that there was no way for me to change anything. I left empty-handed with only the clothes that I wore. Later on I have realized I was exactly the kind of person cults like Tvind go for. I was young and alone, I was insecure but hardworking, intelligent but inexperienced. I also had a strong desire to help people and a keen sense of the injustice of our world. Ergo : I was easy prey.
All I want to say is that I was a member of one of the schools. There is a lot of pressure put on the students, because in Africa you will need to be resourceful and commited, work hard and deal with a multidtude of problems due to the relentless situation there: poverty, AIDS, illetracy, colonial systems. If you cannot cope with pressure in Europe - how would you be able to cope in Africa, where the pressure is higher? If you do not make your target in fundraising - i.e. make the money you need to pay for your education, your ticket etc, you cannot expect other people to raise it for you. You cannot treat your team mates like shit. From hearing from "3rd periods" it sounded like they did a good job in Africa, despite endless struggles with communication, adverse conditions and lack of just about everything. I didnt learn the native tounge of the country that I was to be working in either - not enough anyway, because we didn't fully understand the importance of learing it. Lack of self discipline, I am afraid. I learnt the laguage once I got to my project. Students in the school gave the language lessons - they were from Portugal and did a brilinat job. Do join!
All I want to say is that I was a member of one of the schools. Their is undue pressure put on the students, if you do not make your target in fundraising you are told you are lazy, that you have to raise your standerds and generally made to feel like shit. From hearing from "3rd periods" it sounds like they do jack shit in Africa. I didnt learn anything in my time at the school, not even the native toung of the country that I was to be working in. Students in the school gave the language lessons. Dont join.
As far as I can see you are looking after the needs of those who wish to complain about Tvind. From what I heard the Tvind guestbooks where repeatedly sabotaged and they couldn't be bothered to clean it up any longer. Actually, there is quite a lot of interesting articles at www.tvind.dk if you wish to look at what their side of the story is. I have written some emails to people there to ask some questions and they have all been answered, so this crap about that you cannot discuss with them is not true.
Linda
I'll take back my last comment, I've seen that at least one comment has reached the guestbook,
with regards Bertold
I put in a quick check with East Riding council and there is no application to open Winestead Hall as a children's home. HOWEVER a change of use to a private school or college for over-16s would not need planning permission. Thanks Eddy, keep your ears and eyes open.
it is very sad to see that neither of my comments reach the debate in the guestbook...
Bertold
Hey y'all
It seems to me that nothing has changed. The same old discussion about Tvind over and over again. I think it is becoming very boring debating about a organisation for over ten years. I've heard the same stories and same argumentation since 1991. I think the time has come let Tvind dor their stuff. Let the Danish Government do their job and let everybody else concern themselves with more serious matters like environment e.g. The whole discussion etc. has not had a deciding influence yet, and in my perception it won't either.
With regards Bertold
Hi my name is Eddy i worked at Winestead for 3 years as a nightwatchman. T my intrest you to know thatb the scool is trying to re-open and look after kids with sever behavioural problems again!!!! I think that this is just another money making project for the cult and should be stopped at all costs as it is only the kids who suffer. I will keep you all informed about this in the future Cheers Eddy
Obviously the Tvindies are starting to Cr*p themselves
Sunday: a sad attempt was made tonight to sabotage this guest book. I think we can draw our own conclusions.
Readers should be aware that submissions to this guestbook are archived and they can swiftly be replaced. They always will be.
this is truly the most pathetic "hacking" attempt I have seen in my life. Amdi would not be proud. :P
What on earth has been going on here?
Micheal you really need to ban these people, as they are making it very hard for people to acctualy post messages.
Answer: No,not lithuanian social service,they don't care about "problem kids" so much down there.I did it by myself.Lithuanian girl.
A few weeks ago tvind.dk removed its discussion board. Sadly, their guestbook has now gone too, leaving absolutely no opportunity for public debate and questions on the site. Can't say that I'm surprised, but it certainly is a step backwards!
Question: Who funded a Lithuanian "problem kid" to go to a Tvind school? The Lithuanian Social Services?
Hi again, Like I said,before,when I was in one of Tvind schools I hated it so much,but now things changed. DNS changed too,cuz all these old teachers don't have such a power like before(it seems like that).In their place came some new people,who ain't just working machines.Where else if not in DNS u can learn so easy how to deal with all kinds of problems and people?And that trip in India...If u ever gonna try it,u will keep memories and expierence for your all life.In Tvind u can learn so many important rules of living.For me it's kinda difficult to express myself,I hope u understand what I meen.I'm not fan of Tvind,not at all.But I think everybody can get something from there. Lithuanian girl.
Dear girl from Lithuania, Succesfully, Tvind exploit your difficult situation. Like they have done in for instance the old DDR, pulling many youngsters to Tvind and into the Tvind system. The Tvind system, in many ways, uses similar manipulative principles as were used in East Block countries, and Tvind being a totalitarian system itself, you are exactly "gefundenes Fressen" and easy prey for Tvind. You are their victims, and you do not realise. Why, really, can't you find more than a handful of young Danes at Tvind's schools? Do you really think it is all caused by a "bad press", as your Tvind leaders will tell you? Or could there be other reasons? For instance that they KNOW Tvind? -This is said with all respect for your own right of choice of your future.
Hi everyone, I have been in one of the Tvind bording schools in Denmark,I was one of those "problem kids" down there.And it was the worst time in my life,they didn't helped me with my problems,just were using me and made my life realy up-side-down.But now,i know a lot about Tvind,and I think that their ideas are great.Right now I'm studing in one of ex Tvind schools and school became my home.I imagining my future in Tvind,I'm planning to go in DNS,and after to work as a teacher.I think that Tvind ain't such a bad organisation.Everything depence on you,if u have strong personality,nobody is going to hurt u there.U can have the most greatest times of your life down in Tvind.Just don't let them use u,use them.As I do now,and everything gonna be cool. Girl from Lithuania.
if ya think about joining, think twice. Just came back and it is not worth it at all. If you are going for the traveling, buy a lonely planet and look under volunteer work. Other wise look up a GOOD organisation, they are out there. Saves you a lot of worries about how save your life is.
I'm a volunteer (soon to be ex-) of TVIND and I suggest people to research Tvind accurately before believing any of these stories...
can you please please find out if this tomas is from NYC the tomas i am looking for is a short latino guy plz write me back with the answer
iS IT THE TOMAS THAT IS AT CCTG IN ETNA CALIF?
i am looking for a guy named Tomas from NYC the last thing i knew about him is that he was going to Nicarugua with IICD MASS could you plz contact me here and tell him his whereabouts because i would like to get in contact with him
i am looking to get ahold of Tomas for NYC i last knew of him going to IICD MASS, to Nicagura this summer contact me here if you know of his whereabouts
C.I.C.D is shit. This is without doubt the most suspect place ive ever encountered. I read in a letter that stated you dont get money back when you leave, good joke, you have to pay them money when you leave. Of course you can do what i did and tell them to shove it up there arses. I left in may and really dont regret it at all. Seriously do not join C.I.C.D because youll probably regret it after your first fundraising trip.(biggest loada bollocks ever)
DOES ANYONE KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT A GUY CALLED HUGO TABARES? PROBABLY WORKING IN MOZAMBIQUE NOW. CHEERS.
Hi All,
Just thought I'd pass on the contrast between how IICD presents its work and how an outside observer sees it.
First - here is the home page of the current Nicaraguan team. http://www.iicd-volunteer.org/frames/team/Nic%2015/index.htm As far as I can tell all these people listed here are voluteers/particpants and not TG people. It's sobering looking through these bios and pictures and realizing what good intentions and interest in changing the world these folks have. Reminds me a lot of myself and the group of people that I got to know at IICD.
Then you read the letter from someone in sister city organization that visited the same town that this group is working in. http://www.tvindalert.org.uk/nicaragua.htm. Just by the description and some of the names you can tell that its the same group as IICD lists on its webpage. However, this outside observer who just stumbled onto the group provides a very pointed critique of what IICD is having these people do. With little preparation, training or support IICD is throwing this idealistic group into a situation where it is unclear what exact they can accomplish despite the best of intentions.
This I think is IICD real crime. Putting people in impossible situat
"98% of UFF's taking stays within UFFs own activities in different places around the world."
Explanation: Uffs taking stays within the organisation, which is running charity projects. For running a school for street children (it is existing, I have been there myself and it is a very nice school) money is needed. This money comes from the organisation. 2% goes to direct sharity, which is the type of charity that is least efficient.
Also I read something like "they are said to drive expensive merchedes cars" This is also roumer based information.
Who ever put up this site:
#Close it down as long as you havent made proper research, visited the projects and are lacking capacity to select information.
//Jan M Ben_Rangell@theglobe.com
A very interesting site.I saw an ad in my local paper to teach kids and travel to africa and tried humana.org with no joy.What a bit of luck finding this site cause now i'm pissed off and will be contacting the paper,whether they know or not .I know a couple of people who write for said paper and i'm wondering if they would perhaps do a small peice informing others of this dodgy organisation.I believe a few more people could do with knowing about this NICE WORK
Jan:
I joined a project, including education at one of the Tvind Schools. One of the reasons for participating was to investigate how the schools were and how the projects was kept.
As a matter of fact both me-and most of my friends had positive experiences both at the Tvind school in Norway and The Adpp (DAPP) projects.
In Mocambique I made close studies of the projects and I found nothing to claim.
Though I noticed a small lack of capacity to run the projects. Dapp:s are hard working, dedikated people that sometimes have got more will than knowledge.
The organisation have been on the lead regarding methods to inprove and develop poor areas in the world. This might be why there have been a lot of small or big accidents organising or running the projects.
My experience is 100% good and I recommend strong people to join in! If you have had pzycological or other problems it might get tough for you. A lot of persons that joins the schools have had problems life, drugs, pzycological or other problems and wants to start a "new" life. This is why the school have had problems too.
I respect the fact that things might have gone wrong in some cases and that some persons might have been treated badly. This is beyond my knowledge and something that-as a matter of fact-is happening everywhere in the society.
Thank you for reading! Jan M Ben_Rangell@theglobe.com
Jan:
I joined a project, including education at one of the Tvind Schools. One of the reasons for participating was to investigate how the schools were and how the projects was kept.
As a matter of fact both me-and most of my friends had positive experiences both at the Tvind school in Norway and The Adpp (DAPP) projects.
In Mocambique I made close studies of the projects and I found nothing to claim.
Though I noticed a small lack of capacity to run the projects. Dapp:s are hard working, dedikated people that sometimes have got more will than knowledge.
The organisation have been on the lead regarding methods to inprove and develop poor areas in the world. This might be why there have been a lot of small or big accidents organising or running the projects.
My experience is 100% good and I recommend strong people to join in! If you have had pzycological or other problems it might get tough for you. A lot of persons that joins the schools have had problems life, drugs, pzycological or other problems and wants to start a "new" life. This is why the school have had problems too.
I respect the fact that things might have gone wrong in some cases and that some persons might have been treated badly. This is beyond my knowledge and something that-as a matter of fact-is happening everywhere in the society.
Thank you for reading! Jan M Ben_Rangell@theglobe.com
Who was talking about new teachers in Tvind?I saw Lotte the woman from the story of Chinese student just last weekend in Tvind
I'm visiting you again! I love your Breaking news and others like me love them too! We are thinking in creating a page named "Alert, Tvind!!!" It will be lateral thinking with many pictures. We will have a Graphic Section: "Fugitive Amdi!" But I don't say more!... Alert! and see... Toninho metralha!
Hey you spaks, check this one out and get a life!
www.drh-movement.org go to TCE!
jannaumann@mail.com
Is there any Italian or Italian speaking reader of Tvind Alert guestbook? Humana in Italy have been hassling and maybe threatening a journalist in Italy. His message is below. If anyone can write to him in Italian for Tvind Alert please pass a message to him through feedback at feedback@tvindalert.org.uk - I'll pass it on:
Please help me. Hi, scuse me for bad english I am <name omitted> a italian jornalist of Il Resegone of Lecco, small city near Milan in Italy. I wrote an articles about Humana people to people after Humana arrived in my town. I take a lot of material from yoru website about the off-shore society, the report of comunity comuniti of Englad and alla about Tvind, Uff and Dapp.
Now Humana people to people Italy wrote me that all the news are not correted. They said that Humana and Tvind are non toghetere, that Humana work with Unicef and caritas and the want take me on a justice Hall. I asked you some information about Humana and Tvind in official document of Charity Commis, of Unicef and so... I find some messagge on my car from people who said me: don't write about Humana.
Please help me.
Is there ay Italian or Italian speaking reader of Tvind Alert guestbook? Humana in Italy have been hassling and maybe threatening a journalist in Italy. His message is below. If anyone can write to him in Italian for Tvind Alert please pass a message to him through feedback at feedback@tvindalert.org.uk - I'll pass it on:
Please help me. Hi, scuse me for bad english I am <name omitted> a italian jornalist of Il Resegone of Lecco, small city near Milan in Italy. I wrote an articles about Humana people to people after Humana arrived in my town. I take a lot of material from yoru website about the off-shore society, the report of comunity comuniti of Englad and alla about Tvind, Uff and Dapp.
Now Humana people to people Italy wrote me that all the news are not correted. They said that Humana and Tvind are non toghetere, that Humana work with Unicef and caritas and the want take me on a justice Hall. I asked you some information about Humana and Tvind in official document of Charity Commis, of Unicef and so... I find some messagge on my car from people who said me: don't write about Humana.
Please help me.
I have received an e-mail which informed me that all the students at the new college in Yunnan have run away owing to the poor conditions and bad treatment they received.
Hi, there!
Very good job you are doing in letting people express themselves about what they think of Humana, Tvind and stuff.
I went to IICD and did a programme to Angola,Africa. The six months were not easy, mostly because fundraising is no easy task. But I'd do everything again! What those guys do in Angola is big, and instead of criticising them, I'd much rather try to help people that dedicate their whole lives to help people down there, like the members of the teacher's group I met in Africa, that by far don't live a glorious life in the bushes in Africa. they work very hard, and are helping many people indeed.
I strongly recommend anyone to do their programme and have a chance of making a difference, and change their lives.
Thank you,
Sidnei.
Hi.
Let me first thank those who are behind "Tvind alert". You are doing a great job.
Then I would like to share something with you all, especially those who have been angry and hostile in this guestbook. You seem to think that "ex tvindmembers" have no right to criticize Tvind, because they joined it voluntarily. You also frequently ask questions like "if the organization is so terrible why did you join it" and "if it was so bad, why did you stay so long". I will try to give you my answer to that.
When I became a student at a Tvind "traveling highschool" I had never heard of the organization. I was looking at a list of Scandinavian "folk high school" when I saw this interesting school that combined studies of the world with traveling. I found it all very interesting and went to Norway without knowing what I was getting me into. The school turned out to be rather overwhelming. The teachers were charming and enthusiastic but they were also very domineering and discouraged any criticism of their work very strongly. From the first day I had a nagging feeling that something was very wrong, but I didn't allow myself to think that way, the problem was surely with me, and not the organization. Much went on in the "studying" and working period, but the oncoming voyage to India kept me going. The trip itself was both wonderful and terrible. I was nearly raped, I had constant diahorrea and I was robbed - among other things. But I also met some wonderful and courageous people who affected me deeply. I saw poverty and injustice everywhere and I sincerely wanted to do something to help. The teacher kept saying that the only way to really do something was to join the teachers group. I had only a vague idea what that was but I was exhausted and he was a very pervasive man. The long and short of it was that I joined the group when I came back to Norway.
I was assigned to a primary school in Denmark run by Tvind. It was a boarding school for troubled kids who for a variety of reasons didn't fit into the regular school system. There were only three qualified teacher there, the rest of the staff was inexperienced. The work conditions vere terrible. Those kids really needed help and the teachers tried to help them but we were overworked and underqualified. We didn't have any time off, we lived in the school and were constantly on duty. I wanted to leave early on, but I had become fond of the kids and I had some progress with some of them so it was hard to leave them. Exhaustion was also a factor, it is hard to think straight when you never get enough rest. Finally after two and a half years I had enough and left. I had come to disagree with almost everything the teachers group stands for, but I found that there was no way for me to change anything. I left empty-handed with only the clothes that I wore. Later on I have realized I was exactly the kind of person cults like Tvind go for. I was young and alone, I was insecure but hardworking, intelligent but inexperienced. I also had a strong desire to help people and a keen sense of the injustice of our world. Ergo : I was easy prey.
All I want to say is that I was a member of one of the schools. There is a lot of pressure put on the students, because in Africa you will need to be resourceful and commited, work hard and deal with a multidtude of problems due to the relentless situation there: poverty, AIDS, illetracy, colonial systems. If you cannot cope with pressure in Europe - how would you be able to cope in Africa, where the pressure is higher? If you do not make your target in fundraising - i.e. make the money you need to pay for your education, your ticket etc, you cannot expect other people to raise it for you. You cannot treat your team mates like shit. From hearing from "3rd periods" it sounded like they did a good job in Africa, despite endless struggles with communication, adverse conditions and lack of just about everything. I didnt learn the native tounge of the country that I was to be working in either - not enough anyway, because we didn't fully understand the importance of learing it. Lack of self discipline, I am afraid. I learnt the laguage once I got to my project. Students in the school gave the language lessons - they were from Portugal and did a brilinat job. Do join!
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